Wiretapping scandal set 25: The police dog doesn`t distinguish the political parties
The first conversation shows how easy it is to detain somebody when the Public Prosecution Office is watching your back. You talk to Zvrlevski… If he gets stuck, you have the Minister of Interior to “push it through”. This is the topic of the first conversation from this set, which is led by Ilija Dimovski and Gordana Jankuloska.
The following conversation is between Dragan Pavlovikj – Latas and Ivona Talevska. It completely devoids any assertions of Ivona Talevska that she is not the one behind the “Vizaris”” firm, also that she did not benefit with more than a million euro from this firm. This conversation, from the beginning of 2013, reveals that Talevska knew that “Vizaris will pass”, even several months before the tendering for selecting the firm by the Ministry of Health is realized. She says “At the end of 2013, I will have 1 million and 300 thousand euro on my account, on Vizaris’ account”, and she also talks about the schemes via Boban and Orce. She says she is going to live as a “bear in a cave” with no luxuries, until she sees the money on her account, so she won’t “kick up dust”.
The next conversation is between Gordana Jankuloska and Sasho Mijalkov. Here we can hear one more confirmation that VMRO-DPMNE and Mijalkov, have the right of veto in the judiciary, and also that, as Mijalkov says, there is “pulling of strings in the judiciary, according to the agreement with DUI”. We see that some judgements are reached out of the courts and that Nikola Gruevski has to approve them. Moreover, we hear about the case of “Sopot”, Mijalkov says that when the government was formed, they also arranged something about the case of “Sopot”. Then we hear about new request from the coalition partner – regarding a judgement exemption. Mijalkov can, as he says, talk with the judiciary “and we can do it this way and the other”.
Jankuloska and Mijalkov calculate the possible outcomes for the judgement. What would it mean if they arrange charges recall and whether the stakeholders will not be able to file lawsuits. They also consider the pardoning possibility, sentence lowering or early release from prison. They estimate that a releasing judgement would not sound good for the entire judiciary. Mijalkov believes that reaching a judgement is the best thing to do, and then to go for pardoning. At the end of the conversation, Mijalkov and Jankuloska conclude that it is the best to talk with Nikola Gruevski.
The last conversation is between Jankuloska and Gruevski and in it we hear about another scandal – both Jankuloska and Gruevski knew that Trajko Veljanoski’s son was caught with drugs on the Greek border. Also, they both agree that Veljanoski’s son is problematic (Gruevski adds that his daughter is the same), and that the entire case “stands out a mile”. Jankuloska says that Veljanoski’s son crossed the Macedonian border “normally”, without being checked, because he is the son of the president of the Parliament, and she does not announce that she will take measures regarding the responsible persons.
The things go even further and Jankuloska confirms that “our” side was struggling to set Vejlanoski’s son free without registering anything at all. Nikola Gruevski is not reacting, he is just planning how to notify Veljanoski that he knows what has happened, however without telling him where he obtained the information from.
All of the “bombs” are here
Press conference of Panche Ivanov, president of the Basic Organization of SDSM in Veles, in Veles, 23rd of April 2015
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